What Did Wimbledon Teach Us About Genius?

Roger Federer of Switzerland plays a forehand against Novak Djokovic of Serbia during the 2019 Wimbledon men's final on July 14 in London.

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Sunday’s tennis championship at Wimbledon between Novak Djokovic and Roger Federer lasted nearly five hours, a record. It finished with a 12-12 tie in the final set, triggering a first-to-seven tiebreaker. For tennis fans, it was an epic struggle between legends in a storybook setting. The weather was perfect, and the hats were divine. For readers of David Epstein’s new book, Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World, however, it was an academic nail-biter, a test case in a simmering war between specialists and generalists.

Range argues that professional success in most fields is not primarily the product of intense specialization but of generalization, of the cross-pollination of ideas and experiences. Range is an ode to late starters, like Vincent van Gogh, who wandered Europe and failed at all kinds of things, including preaching, before changing the art of painting. It’s about the NASA scientists who failed to prevent the explosion of the Challenger space shuttle, because they couldn’t operate outside the discipline of their training. It extols violinists who start late and polymaths like Charles Darwin.

Epstein is also the author of The Sports Gene, about genetics and outcomes in athletics. Taken together, The Sports Gene and Range form something like a rebuttal to Malcolm Gladwell’s Outliers and the whole gospel of the 10,000 hours, which suggests that mastery can be achieved only through consistent, unwavering focus. (The two authors, in their own classic bout, actually spent a lecture arguing about generalization and specialization at a sports conference this year. You can watch it here.) Range, like Outliers, is a book about ideas, success and brilliance, and both books rely on zillions of academic studies.

And it’s about sports, of course, our most measured form of success, with a stop on the tennis court. The book opens with a story about Federer, who is described as the antithesis of Tiger Woods. (Epstein says he titled his book proposal Tiger vs. Roger.) Tiger Woods played nothing but golf, starting at around 2 years old. Federer, Epstein writes, was raised on a variety of sports. His mother specifically discouraged him from specializing in tennis. He was steered away from playing more competitive matches so he could hang out with his friends. His mother often didn’t even watch him play.

Increasingly, writes Epstein, research about sports in particular and many fields in general is finding that early specialization more often leads to burnout and skill mismatches than success. The better path, statistically, is early and wide “sampling.” It matches people to the best skills. It allows disciplines to inform one another. The numbers suggest this is true for most professional athletes, and, of course, we all want it to be true. Specialization is grueling, relentless and not really that charming.

But!

Djokovic won. Beat Federer at the end of five hours by one point.

And Djokovic is a specialist, in its most extreme form. There are no accounts of Djokovic dabbling, testing a bunch of different sports. A child prodigy, he picked up tennis at 4 and never strayed. At 7, he was interviewed for a television spot in Serbia. “Tennis is my job,” he said, according to Sports Illustrated. “My goal in tennis is to become No. 1.” He had no other interests.

Bummer. But, still, Range is a delight to read because it tells us what we want to learn: that aimlessness is the path to greatness, that our distractibility is not our weakness but our secret power, that genius and perfection can show up for us with luck, as long as we’re just willing to amble around enough.

And you could hear that wish in the crowd, which was cheering for the lovely-to-watch Federer. No one wants to be Djokovic, the anxiety-ridden grinder. But he does seem to win a lot.

If you’d just finished Range and were pumped to dabble, and maybe get started on greatness later, Wimbledon was a real heartbreaker.

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Records Show Medicare Advantage Plans Overbill Taxpayers By Billions Annually

Medicare Advantage plans, administered by private insurance firms under contract with Medicare, treat more than 22 million seniors — more than 1 in 3 people on Medicare.

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Health insurers that treat millions of seniors have overcharged Medicare by nearly $30 billion over the past three years alone, but federal officials say they are moving ahead with long-delayed plans to recoup at least part of the money.

Officials have known for years that some Medicare Advantage plans overbill the government by exaggerating how sick their patients are or by charging Medicare for treating serious medical conditions they cannot prove their patients have.

Getting refunds from the health plans has proved daunting, however. Officials with the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services repeatedly have postponed or backed off efforts to crack down on billing abuses and mistakes by the increasingly popular Medicare Advantage health plans offered by private health insurers under contract with Medicare. Today, such plans treat more than 22 million seniors — more than 1 in 3 people on Medicare.

Now CMS is trying again, proposing a series of enhanced audits tailored to claw back $1 billion in Medicare Advantage overpayments by 2020 — just a tenth of what it estimates the plans overcharge the government in a given year.

At the same time, the Department of Health and Human Services Inspector General’s Office has launched a separate nationwide round of Medicare Advantage audits.

As in past years, such scrutiny faces an onslaught of criticism from the insurance industry, which argues the CMS audits especially are technically unsound and unfair and could jeopardize medical services for seniors.

America’s Health Insurance Plans, an industry trade group, blasted the CMS audit design when details emerged last fall, calling it “fatally flawed.”

Insurer Cigna Corp. warned in a May financial filing: “If adopted in its current form, [the audits] could have a detrimental impact” on all Medicare Advantage plans and “affect the ability of plans to deliver high quality care.”

But former Sen. Claire McCaskill, a Missouri Democrat who now works as a political analyst, says officials must move past powerful lobbying efforts. The officials must hold health insurers accountable, McCaskill says, and demand refunds for “inappropriate” billings.

“There are a lot of things that could cause Medicare to go broke,” she says. “This would be one of the contributing factors. Ten billion dollars a year is real money.”

Catching overbilling with a wider net

In the overpayment dispute, health plans want CMS to scale back, if not kill off, an enhanced audit tool that, for the first time, could force insurers to cough up millions in improper payments they’ve received.

For more than a decade, audits have been little more than an irritant to insurers, because most plans go years without being chosen for review and often pay only a few hundred thousand dollars in refunds as a consequence. When auditors uncover errors in the medical records of patients the insurers were paid to treat, CMS has simply required a rebate for those patients for just the year audited — relatively small sums for plans with thousands of members.

The latest CMS proposal would raise those stakes enormously by extrapolating error rates found in a random sample of 200 patients to the plan’s full membership — a technique expected to trigger many multimillion-dollar penalties. Though controversial, extrapolation is common in medical fraud investigations — except for investigations into Medicare Advantage. Since 2007, the industry has successfully challenged the extrapolation method and, as a result, largely avoided accountability for pervasive billing errors.

“The public has a substantial interest in the recoupment of millions of dollars of public money improperly paid to health insurers,” CMS wrote in a Federal Register notice late last year announcing its renewed attempt at using extrapolation.

Penalties in limbo

In a written response to our questions, CMS officials said the agency has already conducted 90 of those enhanced audits for payments made in 2011, 2012 and 2013 — and expects to collect $650 million in extrapolated penalties as a result.

Though that figure reflects only a minute percentage of actual losses to taxpayers from overpayments, it would be a huge escalation for CMS. Previous Medicare Advantage audits have recouped a total of about $14 million — far less than it cost to conduct them, federal records show.

Though CMS has disclosed the names of the health plans in the crossfire, it has not yet told them how much each owes, officials said. CMS declined to say when, or if, they would make the results public.

This year, CMS is starting audits for 2014 and 2015, 30 per year, targeting about 5% of the 600 plans annually.

This spring, CMS announced it would extend until the end of August the audit proposal’s public comment period, which was supposed to end in April. That could be a signal the agency might be looking more closely at industry objections.

Health care industry consultant Jessica Smith says CMS might be taking additional time to make sure the audit protocol can pass muster.

“Once they have their ducks in a row,” she says, “CMS will come back hard at the health plans. There is so much money tied to this.”

But Sean Creighton, a former senior CMS official who now advises the industry for health care consultant Avalere Health, says payment error rates have been dropping because many health plans “are trying as hard as they can to become compliant.”

Still, audits are continuing to find mistakes. The first HHS inspector general audit, released in late April, found that Missouri-based Essence Healthcare Inc. had failed to justify fees for dozens of patients it had treated for strokes or depression. Essence denied any wrongdoing but agreed it should refund $158,904 in overcharges for those patients and ferret out any other errors.

Essence also faces a pending whistleblower suit filed by Charles Rasmussen, a Branson, Mo., doctor who alleges the health plan illegally boosted profits by overstating the severity of patients’ medical conditions. Essence has called the allegations “wholly without merit” and “baseless.”

Essence started as a St. Louis physician group, then grew into a broader holding company in 2007, backed by prominent Silicon Valley venture capitalist John Doerr, with his brother Thomas Doerr, a St. Louis doctor and software designer. Neither would comment for this story.

How we got here

CMS uses a billing formula called a “risk score” to pay for each Medicare Advantage member. The formula pays higher rates for sicker patients than for people in good health.

Congress approved risk scoring in 2003 to ensure that health plans did not shy away from taking sick patients who could incur higher-than-usual costs from hospitals and other medical facilities. But some insurers quickly found ways to boost risk scores — and their revenues.

In 2007, after several years of running Medicare Advantage as what one CMS official dubbed an “honor system,” the agency launched “Risk Adjustment Data Validation” audits. The idea was to cut down on the undeserved payments that cost CMS nearly $30 billion over the past three years.

The audits of 37 health plans revealed that, on average, auditors could confirm just 60% of the more than 20,000 medical conditions CMS had paid the plans to treat.

Extra payments to plans that had claimed some of its diabetic patients had complications, such problems with eyes or kidneys, were reduced or invalidated in nearly half the cases. The overpayments exceeded $10,000 a year for more than 150 patients, though health plans disputed some of the findings.

But CMS kept the findings under wraps until the Center for Public Integrity, an investigative journalism group, sued the agency under the Freedom of Information Act to make those results public.

Despite the alarming findings, CMS conducted no audits for payments made during 2008, 2009 and 2010 as they faced industry backlash over CMS’ authority to conduct them, and the threat of extrapolated repayments. Records released through the FOIA lawsuit show some inside the agency also worried that health plans would abandon the Medicare Advantage program if CMS pressed them too hard.

CMS officials resumed the audits for 2011 and expected to finish them and assess penalties by the end of 2016. That has yet to happen, amid the continuing protests from the industry. Insurers want CMS to adjust downward any extrapolated penalties to account for coding errors that exist in standard Medicare. CMS stands behind its method — at least for now.

At a minimum, argues AHIP, the health insurers association, CMS should back off extrapolation for the 90 audits for 2011-13 and apply it for 2014 and onward. Should the agency agree, CMS would write off more than half a billion dollars that could be recovered for the U.S. Treasury.

Kaiser Health News is a nonprofit, editorially independent program of the Kaiser Family Foundation. KHN is not affiliated with Kaiser Permanente.

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Crowds Gather Each Week In Wisconsin To Watch Their Teams Play Ball — In Snowshoes

Huge crowds turn up each week to watch a game of baseball on a woodchip field, where the players wear snowshoes.

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Most snowshoes in the United States are probably in storage right now, gathering dust and waiting for temperatures to drop. In the town of Lake Tomahawk in the Northwoods of Wisconsin though, they’re getting a lot of use this summer.

Snowshoe baseball is exactly what it sounds like. It’s a game of baseball played on snowshoes, though it more closely resembles a bizarre game of softball.

Every Monday night in the summer—and on the 4th of July—hundreds of tourists and residents gather to cheer on players who strap on snowshoes and hit a large softball around a field of wood chips. This has been going on since 1961, when then town chairman Ray Sloan came up with the idea to turn the game into a spectator sport capable of entertaining both summer tourists and town residents. An earlier version of the game was played on frozen lakes. Hence, the snowshoes.

Admission is free, but slices of homemade pie cost $2. The pie is a big deal here, too. On any given night you can find 40 different flavors.

Sheila Punches says that “they come for the pie and stay for the game.” She’s been coming to games since the 1970s and she says pie is one way she measures its popularity.

“There was a time when 30 pies was enough,” she says. “Then it was 40, 50, 60, 70 … 100 pies is not too many pies to have. I think somebody said they had 160 pies last week for the 4th of July.”

Pie flavors range from the traditional — Raspberry Rhubarb or Apple — to the more unique: Banana Split, Margarita, and even Sawdust, featuring graham crackers and coconut flakes.

The game starts with a rendition of the national anthem by the local barbershop chorus. Then local commentators Adam Lau and Jimmy Soyck lead the way.

In a recent game, someone takes a swing, misses the ball, and switches bats.

“Oh, it’s the bat,” says Soyck into his microphone.

“It’s always the bat’s fault,” agrees Lau.

Then when the player does hit the ball, he trips right after leaving home plate. The crowd audibly cheers, then sighs.

This hilarious scene is all too common, especially for newer players. Soyck says you can’t run in snowshoes. It’s all in the shuffle.

“You gotta shuffle your feet. You can’t pick them up,” he says. “If you pick them up, you’re going over. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.”

The game carries on this way until about the 7th inning, when one lucky batter gets a disguised cantaloupe thrown to him instead of a ball. When the batter makes contact, he immediately scatters the baseball field with pieces of melon.

“When that thing hits, it splatters everywhere,” says Jeff Smith, who coaches the Snow Hawks, the home team. “It’s painted to look pretty much like those balls out there, and the batter isn’t supposed to know until he hits it.”

It’s easy to laugh at the idea of people playing softball on snowshoes in the middle of the summer, but fan Phil Hejtmanek says there are a lot of talented players here.

“The funny thing is these guys are really good,” he says. “You figure ‘oh, the outfielders aren’t going to be able to make any plays,’ but just you wait.”

When you drive into the town of just more than 1,000 residents, a sign reads: “Welcome to Lake Tomahawk: Home of Snowshoe Baseball.” The game is a part of this town’s history, with generations of families coming together each summer to watch the games.

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Coach Jeff Smith says that it takes a lot of work from local volunteers to make each game run smoothly, but that he doesn’t expect the game to ever fade out.

“There’s too much passion amongst the townspeople around Snowshoe Baseball,” he says. “People get pretty serious about their home team winning and playing and they just want to be a part of it.”

Ultimately, this game is a part of this town’s fabric. Residents like Macey Macintyre grew up watching it.

“The whole town comes together just to watch this and you know it’s the whole town because you see everyone week in and week out,” she says. “It makes our town unique and it makes me just love my town and the people in it a lot more.”

So if you’re in Wisconsin’s Northwoods on a Monday night this summer and looking for some entertainment and good company, snowshoe baseball will be happening in Lake Tomahawk. The season ends in late August.

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Novak Djokovic Defeats Roger Federer in Record-Breaking Wimbledon Match

Novak Djokovic celebrates after defeating Roger Federer in the men’s singles final match of the Wimbledon Tennis Championships in London.

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In a stunning nearly five-hour match that broke records and tested new rules, Novak Djokovic defeated Roger Federer in the Wimbledon men’s championship on Sunday, defending his 2018 title.

Clocking in at four hours and 57 minutes, the match was the longest men’s singles final in Wimbledon history, and had it not been for a new rule that requires a tie-breaker if both players score 12-12 in the final set, it could have gone even longer.

Djokovic won the first set, a bad sign for Federer, as his opponent is 63-1 in majors when taking the first set.

The pair went back and forth, Djokovic taking the first set, Federer the second, Djokovic the third, and Federer the fourth. After the 12-12 fifth set, Djokovic took the unprecedented tie-breaker 7-3.

The 32-year-old Serbian won back-to-back titles in 2014 and 2015. Now, he’s repeated the achievement, defending his 2018 title to win his fifth Wimbledon championship. Federer, his Swiss opponent, boasts eight Wimbledon championships and would have been the oldest player to take a Grand Slam title had he not been defeated.

Djokovic commended his opponent, saying “I think that if this is not the most exciting final then it’s definitely in the top two or three of my career against one of the greatest players of all time, Roger, who I respect.”

Federer holds the record for most Wimbledon finals appearances, at 12.

“You take it on your chin, you move on,” Federer told the Telegraph. “You try to forget, try to take the good things out of this match. There’s just tons of it. Similar to ’08 maybe, I will look back at it and think, ‘Well, it’s not that bad after all.'”

Since his first Wimbledon victory against Rafael Nadal in 2011, Djokovic has established a signature tradition of eating grass from the court after each win. This year, he didn’t disappoint, crouching to pluck a bit of the turf into his mouth and grinning at the crowd as he savored his title.

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For Bethany Hamilton, Surfing Is ‘An Escape From All The Chaos On Land’

“Sometimes I just want to hide in my island home back in Hawaii and keep things simple,” says surfer Bethany Hamilton. But she believes her story can be an example of “inspiration and hope” for young people.

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When Bethany Hamilton was 13 years old she lost her arm to a shark while surfing in Hawaii. That event catapulted her into the public spotlight, from talk shows to a Hollywood movie based on her life.

Not only did Hamilton return to the water, but she went on to ride some of the world’s biggest waves. Her story is told in the new documentary Bethany Hamilton: Unstoppable.

“I’ve always been drawn to pushing myself into bigger waves …” Hamilton says. “You’re just kind of hanging on for dear life — but also tackling it with all you’ve got.”


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On what keeps her surfing

Ultimately I’m driven by my passion and love for riding waves. You know, so many people are like, “Why would you get back into the ocean with sharks?” and I’m like, “Well, I just have more fear of losing this love that I have for riding waves.”

It’s like my form of art and creativity and it’s a place … I’m completely immersed in what I’m doing and there’s nothing kind of holding me back or distracting me I’m just enjoying this beautiful ride. …

I realized, too, it’s a place of healing for me. … It’s my place of escape from all the chaos on land. … I can go and be refreshed and come back to my kids and be like, “Hey kids, like, let’s build a Lego tower now.”

Hamilton found out she was pregnant mid-way through filming Unstoppable. She continued to compete while nursing her infant son.

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On pulling her name out of the running after she was nominated for a 2016 ESPY in the “Best Female Athlete with a Disability” category

So, yeah, my thinking was: I really didn’t feel excited to receive the award. I never, like, view myself as disabled. I don’t have a handicap parking space [placard] in my car, and I think that if I viewed myself that way I wouldn’t be where I am today. If only the category had been just “Best Adaptive Athlete” I would have been happy to receive it. I have so much respect for all the people in that category, and who have received that award, but I just– to me, the word “disabled” does not match my life, and who I am, and what I’ve accomplished and the way I go about every single day.

On becoming a mom

After I married my husband we were like, “Well, let’s give it five years … and then we’ll talk about having a family.” … [When] I found out I was pregnant, I just did not feel ready for that, but I knew that, like, God’s plan was better than my own.

On getting back into shape after childbirth

I didn’t know what to expect. … It was even harder than I thought it would be. I tried to give myself grace and patience but, yeah, motherhood is no joke. It challenges you in every aspect — mentally, physically — and you’re just spread in every direction kind of thin. But it’s also the most enriching, joyful, beautiful and empowering experience.

On the World Surf League committing to paying equal prize money to male and female athletes

It’s a beautiful step in the right direction. Women are at the forefront of surfing right now … and I’m super applauding the World Surf League. … It’s exciting to be a part of such an awesome sport that is leading that forefront.

Denise Guerra produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Beth Novey adapted it for the Web.

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Simona Halep Defeats Serena Williams To Win Her First Wimbledon Title

Serena Williams is dejected after losing a point during the women’s singles final match against Romania’s Simona Halep at Wimbledon on July 13, 2019.

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Serena Williams went into the Wimbledon finals on Saturday hoping to secure her 24th Grand Slam singles title — an accomplishment that would have equaled the record set by Margaret Court in the 1970s.

But after losses in two sets — 6-2, 6-2 — she fell to 27 year old Simona Halep, who with the victory became the first Romanian player to win a singles title at Wimbledon.

The win marked Halep’s second major singles title — she previously won the the French Open in 2018.

From the beginning, Halep dominated the match against Williams, controlling the court with her speed, coverage and aggressive ground strokes. When Williams failed to return the final rally that clinched the match, Halep sank to her knees and raised her racket high above her head, closing her eyes and grinning in triumph.

After the match ended, Halep was asked if she’d ever played better.

“Never,” she said. “It was the best match.”

But Halep had kind words for Williams as well.

“Serena has inspired us, so thank you for that,” she said.

Saturday’s match was Williams’ 11th Wimbledon singles final. She’s won the tournament seven times already, most recently in 2016 against Angelique Kerber.

The match was also the third Grand Slam loss in a row for Williams, who hasn’t won a Grand Slam title since the Australian Open in 2017, which she played while pregnant. She lost to Kerber in last year’s Wimbledon final and to Naomi Osaka at the U.S. Open in September.

At 37, Williams is the oldest Grand Slam women’s singles finalist to compete since the start of the Open Era in 1968. But she has struggled to attain her 24th Grand Slam singles title since the birth of her daughter, Olympia, in 2017.

Her daughter’s birth “would have been a perfect moment to walk away, but I wanted more,” she said in an interview last year.

After the match, Williams said playing against Halep made her feel like a “deer in the headlights.”

“When a player plays like that, you just have to take your hat off,” she said.

But Williams said this is far from her last tournament. “I’ve just got to keep fighting, keep trying,” she said. “I love playing the sport.”

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Remembering Ball Player Jim Bouton And ‘Ball Four’

Jim Bouton, the baseball player who spilled the dirt on the Major Leagues with his celebrated memoir, Ball Four, died this week at the age of 80.



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I’m 30 years old, and I have these dreams is how Jim Bouton opened his 1970 book “Ball Four,” which a lot of young fans read under the covers by flashlight, laughing instead of sleeping and learning colorful new language. I dream my knuckleball is jumping around like a ping pong ball in the wind, Jim wrote. When the game is over, take a big bow on the mound in Yankee Stadium with 60,000 people cheering wildly, which I think is much like the dream of a lot of young fans.

“Ball Four” became a bestseller, a controversy and ultimately a classic. A lot of baseball people didn’t like Jim Bouton’s diary of daily life playing for the new and now defunct Seattle Pilots, the minor league Vancouver Mounties and then the Houston Astros. They felt he violated the code of the locker room by telling stories about ballplayers pulling pranks, swearing, carousing and joking. But readers, not just baseball fans, found he made the game lively, profane and engaging.

I got to know Jim a little interviewing him and in occasional phone calls. His own family was blessed by adoption, and he encouraged our family. He signed “Ball Four” for our daughters, writing don’t tell your daddy where you learned some bad words. He had a huge sentimental love for baseball in all its ironies, rituals, artistry and even tedium.

A lot of it is foolishness, he wrote – grown men being serious about a boy’s game. He goes on to say, I admit that sometimes I’m troubled by the way I make my living, but I don’t think there’s anything so great about selling real estate or life insurance or mutual funds or a lot of other things that people do with their lives.

When Jim Bouton died this week at the age of 80, I thought of the graceful final words of “Ball Four.” You see, you spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball. And in the end, it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.

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Saturday Sports: Wimbledon, NBA Off-Season

Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic renew a great rivalry at Wimbledon, and NBA free agency madness.



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No matter what else is happening in the world, it’s time for sports.

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SIMON: A new name on top at Wimbledon and lots of new jerseys on a lot of NBA free agents. NPR’s Tom Goldman joins us.

Good morning, Tom.

TOM GOLDMAN, BYLINE: Good morning, Scott. And welcome back.

SIMON: Thank you very much. Good to be back. And a new champion – women’s champion – at Wimbledon, Simona Halep, a great young player from Romania.

GOLDMAN: Wow, 6-2, 6-2 she beat American Serena Williams in less than an hour. And she keeps Williams from tying Margaret Court’s all-time Grand Slam singles title record of 24. You know, Scott, there’d been a lot of talk about whether Serena would be nervous again on the brink of history. She lost two Grand Slam finals last year, and nerves did play a part. But let’s be clear. This was not about Serena being nervous or making a ton of unforced errors. This was all about Simona Halep’s dominance in her first ever Wimbledon final. She won with her speed and her court coverage and aggressive ground strokes. And afterwards, she was asked if she’d ever played better, and she said never.

SIMON: Well, (laughter) I have to take her word for it.

GOLDMAN: There it is.

SIMON: Let me – I understand men are playing, too – the same old names over and over again for 20 years. God bless them.

GOLDMAN: Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, Novak Djokovic again and again and again. And tomorrow’s final, Novak Djokovic against Roger Federer, along with Nadal, who Federer beat in the semifinals – those big three players, all in their 30s, Federer pushing 40 – they continue to have this iron grip on their sport. Including tomorrow, they will have won the last 11 Grand Slam singles title. And as a mid-20s year, Scott, it’s been more like the past 15. But it’s just unprecedented, I think, in all of sport.

SIMON: Yeah.

GOLDMAN: You know, the normal narrative youth comes along and replenishes, but that hasn’t happened yet in men’s tennis.

SIMON: OK, the NBA offseason – unusually active, let’s put it that way. And it’s changed the – changed how we see the NBA at the moment. Just as people were getting excited about the Toronto Raptors, their main guy Kawhi Leonard decides to decamp for the LA Clippers.

GOLDMAN: (Laughter).

SIMON: And then a lot of major stars begin to move. The league looks entirely different in the space of two weeks.

GOLDMAN: Amazing, yeah. Decamping, to put it mildly. It continued late this week, too. Oklahoma City traded guard Russell Westbrook, the 2017 NBA Most Valuable Player, to Houston, where he’ll reunite with guard James Harden, the 2018 MVP. Scott, there were 15 all NBA players named last season. Those are the best of the best. Six of them have changed teams since the NBA finals ended last month. Without question, as you say, the most stunning league-shifting offseason in NBA history.

And it makes me wonder, are the days of dynasties where players still, you know, stay put for a while and grow together and create an unbeatable team – for instance, the Golden State Warriors of the past five years – are those days over?

SIMON: I like dynasties, or dynasties, as you say in your family. I think they make championships worth winning. I mean, beating the Golden State Warriors made the championship worthwhile. Beating the Michael Jordan Bulls, the Bill Russell Celtics – defeating a team that just comes together for a year or two – somehow, it doesn’t mean as much.

GOLDMAN: Yeah, you know, I think it’s a valid concern. A lot of fans are feeling that, you know? The fans in Toronto, as you say, they just cleaned up the confetti from their title celebration. And the question is, how will all this movement affect fans’ connections to players? On the other hand, with more great players spreading throughout the league, more fans can feel as if their team actually has a chance to win. And this can create more excitement. And let me tell you, right now, there’s a phenomenal buzz about next season, which is still more than three months away from starting.

SIMON: NPR’s Tom Goldman, thanks so much.

GOLDMAN: You’re welcome.

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